QUESTION: How can Hawaiian tradition talk about "aloha" when they actually bake pigs, chickens and other animals for eating when they are our brothers or sisters in different bodies?
ANSWER: In Hawaiian tradition the Aloha Spirit is applied to everyone and everything. This means that everything is alive, aware, and responsive, and nothing is more alive than anything else. This tradition includes respect for all things, including rocks, plants, animals, humans, and stars. The Creator in deep wisdom made everything interdependent. Rocks (minerals) consume plants, animals, and humans; animals consume plants and other animals and rocks; humans of different kinds and beliefs consume plants, animals, and rocks. It is good to respect the rights of different people to consume what they believe is good for them, and even better to encourage them to have respect and appreciation for what they consume, whether it is plants, animals, or rocks.
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Aloha everyone, very nicely put Master Serge. But I remember how you teach of energies which are spread all over the planet and universe...
ReplyDeleteTherefore the more killing of animals to satisfy 'human' greed is just an excuse, how you try to mask things, I am sorry, but lots of energy of fear of being killed is broadcast in space around us and planet. How much adrenaline of fear is consumed by 'humans' who kill these animals and eat them?
--Another very important question is of SHELTERING MOTHERHOOD. No cows should be killed and their children calves. This is a terrible deed. What civilization and what 'aloha' are we speaking of, of what respect ? We are hypocrites, liers, who mask most cruel deed to please the greed..
Please be honest, and tell me in which tradition mothers and children are so cruelty killed? How am I informed only in demoniac. Sorry Master Serge, if you do not share this point I brought. I am not mentioning other animals, just mothers cows and calves, at the moment. // I do remember your song Ode to a Toad in your Urban Shaman book, how sentimental you are and can be, and how not, and why in SHELTERING motherhood? ,
Aloha sharing towards all and everyone, hope to raise collective awareness soon of Love Light Peace and Harmony. Thnx. Be blessed all.
Dear Desiree! I think,its about the attitude in which we act. So, if we are thankful for what we get from life, this energy is spreading within us and around us. True gratitude is not a mask and not an excuse. Its a deep sense of sacredness to life, which leads to deep peace, that sooths greed and creates love
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ReplyDeleteI am always amused by those who want to save this or that. Its like an over-mothering complex generated by a lack of emotional freedom when they were children. Research proves the plant kingdom also is able to feel sympathy to passionate gardeners. A plethora of opinion has been written on this matter but it never takes the center stage like meat does. Do these people think plants deserve less than animals ? Life is an expanding and contracting illusion governed by the rules of temporary existence. To truly believe in an infinite endless array of existence(s) is to recognize the consequence of 'act' as something illusory as well.
ReplyDeleteAloha , thnx everyone for sharing ---Let me pls ask once more:
ReplyDelete-- Please be honest, and tell me in which tradition mother animals and their calves - children are so cruelly killed to satisfy human greed? I am not mentioning other animals, just mothers cows and calves, at the moment. // I do remember your song Ode to a Toad in your Urban Shaman book, how sentimental you are and can be, and how not, and why in SHELTERING motherhood?
-- I learn from ancient traditions on all planetary continents how even animals themselves shelter motherhood.
Aloha sharing towards all and everyone, hope to raise collective awareness soon of Love Light Peace and Harmony. Thnx. Be blessed all.Aloha.
I suppose if the act of consuming an animal is done with gratitude and consciousness, instead of a automatic unfulfillable impulse like you see in cases of hungry ghosts or spirits that have come to exemplify mindless greed caused by unconscious suffering, then there is sacredness to it. I understand one purpose of the Sun Dance among certain native American tribes was to feel a little of the pain that they caused the buffalo in the act of hunting them. To show consciousness and compassion and humility. In showing this consciousness they were able to stay in harmony with the web of all nature spirits, and they appreciated the meat they ate as a sacred thing. That is my understanding. Aloha and Happy Thanksgiving, and may we be humbled by the gorgeously soulful being, the Turkey.
ReplyDelete~*~Aloha~*~
ReplyDeleteI come with respect.
I used to believe the same thing, that as long as animals are being killed in a "humane" way and given thanks and prayer that we have the right to do so. My family raised cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens, etc. It was always a "big deal" when an animal was harvested. Unlike today where many animals are experiencing a mass holocaust. They feel, they cry, they fear no matter if they are being killed in a slaughter house or on an organic farm.
We are evolving. Our caveman ancestors consumed raw meat and fish. Our native american ancestors dried, salted and cooked it. We now know that we do not need meat as a means to survive. (I'm a blood type O and this is the supposed "meat eater"). I believe that through the evolutionary process we will move on to eating fruits, nuts and vegetables and no longer choose to eat meat as we all fully realize the sanctity of our animal brothers and sisters.
Yes, I also believe, and as studies show, a tomato will cry. I believe that as we continue to evolve, we will become even more conscious of the sanctity of our plant brothers and sisters.
I believe that as we continue to evolve we will return to living off of light and breath.
~*~Peace and Aloha~*~